| Author | Topic: Say What You Want About Vinnie Paz As An Mc.... |
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Location: CA |  posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:28:18 PM 
.....but dude grinds hard with real dope mc's/producers....and has a great ear for beats. he's also done quite a bit for underground hip-hop as a whole...whether good or bad i guess. one of the most influential underground cats there is. yeah, he's not the best mc out there....but he's made his mark on hip-hop, imo.
new track from his upcoming album....produced by psycho les...
vinnie paz - cheesesteaks
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Location: CA | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37:01 PM
also he's gonna have beats from preem, alch, da beatminerz, and beatnuts on his new lp....
i mean, come on....what underground artists these days are going for that kinda production?Partial IP: .159.64.10 |
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Location: Me and Broke Niggas we Don't get Along! | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:46:23 PM
I thought the post was going to read...
Say What You Want About Vinnie Paz As An Mc....
.....but dude grinds hard and is an upstanding Muslim.
I was going to fall all over myself agreeing with you Weatherman, you really blew this one...
Also, this song has been posted already.Partial IP: 205.108.34 |
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Location: VANCITY | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:58:11 PM 
Ya this Cheesesteaks ish was dope. Rap sucks live? Well I dont listen to pop rap crap like you bro only #REALHIPHOP so um ya.
I have to say I LOVE JMT. Not a fan of all the homophobia but Paz is ill. I saw them with Non-Phixion in Tuc yrs ago and they where ill but I saw them again at a bigger venue w/RA and they where terrible. Str8 booty. Didnt even finish their set.Partial IP: 242.48.225 |
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:02:44 PM
LOL, I've seen all kinds of performances from the best Rock, Punk, Jazz and Classical performers around but some of the best shows I've ever seen have been hiphop. Some of you need to get out more and maybe see someone other than your favorite cookie cutter MC perform.Partial IP: .176.6.192 |
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Location: got caught holding a pack of thelonious monks heroin | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:03:28 PM
co-sign WM. If 10% of these clowns rapping had Vinny's ear, hiphop would be a better place here in the UG. The new track is dope as fuck.Partial IP: 29.234.234 |
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Location: In Tromaville talking Hip Hop with Lloyd Kaufman | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:14:43 PM
Thats a dope beat, I'm feeling it.Partial IP: .20.242.67 |
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:16:58 PM
Just checked out the track...decent beat but I can see it getting old real quick. Not really looking forward to it but I haven't followed anyone from JMT since VBD...Partial IP: .176.6.192 |
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Location: CA | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:21:02 PM
co-sign WM. If 10% of these clowns rapping had Vinny's ear, hiphop would be a better place here in the UG. The new track is dope as fuck.
exactly. vinnie, love him or hate him, just knows what the fuck sounds good. period.
Just checked out the track...decent beat but I can see it getting old real quick. Not really looking forward to it but I haven't followed anyone from JMT since VBD...
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:25:27 PM
I try to check everything that might be remotely good out that I can. I'm usually disappointed but the few gems I learn about from here are worth it.Partial IP: .176.6.192 |
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Location: CA | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:27:37 PM
I try to check everything that might be remotely good out that I can. I'm usually disappointed but the few gems I learn about from here are worth it.
cool. i know you're big on heiro (as am i)...what did you think of the new del album w/ parallel thought? pretty damn dope to me....kinda funky, and i was digging the more battle style del put out on the album.
really looking forward to new deltron 3030 shit in september.Partial IP: 159.192.10 |
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Location: CA | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:33:45 PM
i think it's just over 40 minutes
you can check it out here actually:
album streamPartial IP: 159.192.10 |
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:39:06 PM
I haven't picked the album up yet but what I've heard was pretty good and I'm glad Hiero is stepping back up lately. I plan on getting that, the Pep Love and Casual releases from this year but been so busy and not had a chance to stop at a decent record store lately to buy anything. I'm looking forward to the new 3030 too but honestly, I wasn't as into the first one as some of you even though it was a quality album. I just like the more "down to earth" topics he had before that album came out and that was around the time I thought Hiero was kinda falling off by releasing too much filler material. Hiero was pretty much my favorite crew for a while up to 3rd Eye Vision, which was on constant replay for years but I think the last real quality release from them was Ascension until recently.Partial IP: .176.6.192 |
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Location: CA | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:43:40 PM
i hear you...i was playing 3rd eye vision this morning....that album is amazing.
did you ever check the del/tame one album a couple years back? that shit was very dope and one of the better recent heiro releases. really feelin the new del though. one of the select few legends still sounding dope today, imo.Partial IP: 159.192.10 |
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:48:33 PM
Yep, when that Del/Tame One album came out, I mentioned that it was the best I heard from either of them in years. That was the beginning of the Hiero reemergence to me. Now if Tame gets back with El Da Sensai for some new Artifacts shit, things will be back on track.Partial IP: .176.6.192 |
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:55:00 PM
I guess Casual has been consistent on the mic but I just didn't like his releases after Meanwhile... very much.
By the way, sorry to go off topic on this Paz thread but at least it's a decent discussion about hiphop.Partial IP: .176.6.192 |
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Location: NY | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:08:23 PM
I know u guys are consumed with great beats and whatnot....but Vinnie was horrible on this cheesesteaks song. Its laughable now b...I always thought he was wack minus a few jedi mind tricks songs. But i only liked those songs cuz of the features like G rap, percee p, ra the rugged man, sean price, canibus lolPartial IP: .29.52.123 |
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Member Since: 2011 | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:05:14 PM
I agree with this post, I actually thought seasons of the assassin was pretty good, vin definitely always gets dope production. And Jmt were dope live when I saw them. Posting in capital's is faggot shit.Partial IP: 35.145.108 |
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Location: you have to learn how to pwn ppl just by words, like jason did tyrone the other night. | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:08:25 PM
vinnie paz is greatPartial IP: 17.228.116 |
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Location: got caught holding a pack of thelonious monks heroin | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:52:07 PM
You never have to think "I wonder who made this beat?" neither cause that fat fuck name drops everyone within the first 12 seconds of every track.Partial IP: 53.191.254 |
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Location: Idaho | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:57:23 PM
Part of the first part of eminems art of rap
Rhyme was inspired by a part from"blood reign "
On violent by designPartial IP: .87.65.166 |
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Member Since: 2009 | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:54:02 PM
im not too too hyped on this track BUT
the hate vinnie gets by some of you ughh forum user faggots is so stupid and pointless
dude pisses most of you faggots off by eating pasta the way he does, the fact that hes "muslim", and the list goes on....
dude has almost NEVER spit anything wack and mostly every beat hes used is ill as fuck whether it be primo, stoupe, rza, etc
and of course live shit is different, ppl get wasted as fuck no matter if they are performing or in the crowd
you musta been one of the faggot ass 14 year olds who had their hand "x'd" because you werent old enough to drink, live shit is about having a good time, thats IT
his new album is going to be GOOD as FUCK, as was his last album season of the assassin. stop hating you pussy ass FAGGOTSPartial IP: .31.105.73 |
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Location: Queens, NY, USA | posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:07:27 PM
I'm not as much of a Vinnie fan as I used to be but those early JMT records were dope, especially Violent By Design...I've seen him live a couple of times and met him, he seems like a chill person...Partial IP: 65.226.242 |
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Location: Me and Broke Niggas we Don't get Along! | posted Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:09:27 AM
Weatherman used to hate on Vinnie as an MC all the time...
But opinions change overtime.Partial IP: 80.217.182 |
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Location: NY | posted Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:13:57 AM
at Bird im sorry that mothafucka is the most repetitive corny white rapper ever i cant take it yo its laughable. Again i liked a few joints here and there from jedi mind tricks but again his production>>>>>>>his rhymes. He flows the same way every fuckin timePartial IP: .29.52.123 |
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Location: got caught holding a pack of thelonious monks heroin | posted Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:53:24 PM
God damn it man, I am killing this fucking track. When is this fat bastards record dropping? I hope Muggs hands him some gold too cause that production list looks heavy.Partial IP: 53.191.254 |
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Member Since: 2009 | posted Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:11:01 PM
track is dope, heard that sample multiple times,can't remember the songs though. paz definitely knows good beats,he wouldn't be where he is today if he didn't i.e hooking up with stoupe.Partial IP: .161.39.22 |
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Location: Seattle, WA | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:00:02 AM
hh you need to peep Casual's "The Hierophant" and Souls of Mischief's "Montezuma's Revenge"...not to mention Opio's "Triangulation Station".
Hella good releases from Hiero since 3rd Eye dude! And Tajai's "Power Movement REMIXES" too.Partial IP: .17.12.179 |
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Member Since: 2012 | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 1:38:50 PM
im not too big of a vinnie fan, but this track fuckin bangs, been playin it lots the past few days, big ups to the all the italian emcees killin shitPartial IP: .5.175.198 |
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Location: Go steal the fuckin shoes and buy the damn music | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 2:39:28 PM
Thanks, Suplexmachine...I got all that and those mostly came out recently when they started getting better again...still not really amazing stuff but I liked a lot of tracks on them. I mentioned when Montozuma's Revenge came out that it was the best I've heard from Souls in a while.
Other than that, my favorite things to drop from the crew during their "down time" are the Tajai/SupremeEx projects.Partial IP: .176.1.120 |
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Location: 118 Avenue, Edmonton, Canada | posted Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:47:45 PM
Track is dope as fuck.
A lot of people dont like Paz cause he is formulaic. Because he is a "pseudo-intellect".
The fact is he has birthed an entire generation of underground rappers
Always been a fan. Its also cool to seem him grow as an artists and move away from the old JMT formula into different production and topicsPartial IP: .161.203.6 |
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Location: Atlant, GA, USA | posted Sunday, July 01, 2012 8:47:01 PM
Dude go'es hard with his lyrical content, but i would not buy his music per-sayPartial IP: 4.74.95.60 |
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Location: NY | posted Monday, July 02, 2012 2:23:11 AM
Nah he didnt birth shit Ras kass, Pharoahe Monch, Chino xl and Canibus already had bigger buzzes than him with that "super lyrical" rap shit. And they were better at it...Well ras and Canibus were dope for a MINUTE Monch is one of the all time greats lol chino was always dopePartial IP: .29.52.123 |
