Topic: Current Trip Hop And Other Hip Hop Influenced Music
Disturbance.
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:46:06 PM Between pandora and soundcloud I've stumbled upon a host of dope trip hop/hip hop artists the past couple years. I've seen some posters on this board discussing artists like this at times (bsbd, emancipator, rjd2 obviously) so I figured I'd share a few and see what others recommend.
Roger Molls - French hip hop/trip hop producer that is killing it with a lot of his music. Check out joints like "The Listener", "Hipology", "Rewind". Has a new album due out soon (mix of instrumentals and rap joints) that sounds fantastic from what's been released so far (Preview of new album with several full songs)
"The Listener"
"Stay Real"
Wax Tailor - has a few lps, featuring a mix of rappers, singers, and instrumental joints. "Que Sera", "Our Dance", "How I Feel", "Sometimes", "Walk the Line" are a few songs.
"Our Dance"
Aim - a British artist (Andrew Turner) mixing electronica/trip hop/hip hop elements. Has worked with Diamond D, Souls of Mischief, QNC. Don't think he's released anything in years but he released a lot of material from 2000-2010 that's worth checking out. "Hinterland", "Before" feat. QNC, "Walking Home through the Park" are a few tracks.
"Before" featuring QNC
Frenic - Going pretty underground with this one but Frenic's released a couple EPs as well as single tracks that are just killing it on the trip hop type vibe. Looks like he combined 3 EPs into an LP that you can listen to here . Haven't heard the most recent EP but the first 2 that are included in this LP are great. "Echos in India", "Open Door", "Something Missing", "You are the Bomb"... the list goes on, if you like what you hear, I recommend giving the whole playlist a listen.
"Echos in India"
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hh
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:37:17 PM yeah, this was a pretty good album:
I've posted about it a few times before..
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LiquidDo$e
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:55:22 PM Never heard any of the artists you posted...
I'm really liking Roger Molls and that Frenic joint sounded good too. Didn't like the other one though..
I'll be looking into Roger Molls for sure
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LiquidDo$e
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:59:30 PM I'm sure you've heard of Gramatik before? I don't like the label Trip Hop for some reason, but he'd be right up your alley if you haven't heard him.
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Disturbance.
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 6:16:42 PM Word hh, that was the album that I first caught onto AIM. Linctus I think and hinterland joints put me on. Digging the hinterland track, there's a pretty dope video on youtube to it of a camera following someone in rewind.
Good to put you onto some artists liquiddose. Roger Molls and Frenic are more underground than the other 2, came across both of them from my music page on soundcloud though both seem to have decent followings outside the site, particularly Roger Molls.
And yeah, good looks on the gramatik recommendation. I am familiar with him but if I wasn't, you're right that he would have been right up my alley, I dug the shit out of his music when I first discovered him. "Juice", "Street Anthem", "Lonely World", etc. all killing it. I was considering including him on this post but didn't want to list too many artists to start with. He's more electronica/jazz based than trip hop though I agree on not caring much for the labeling of music and just prefer good music, which frequently encompasses elements of multiple genres.
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Disturbance.
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 6:32:23 PM Also if you're liking Roger Molls and Frenic, you'd probably like Mononome as well. All instrumental songs with just vocal samples if anything I think and more jazz based than Roger Molls and Frenic, but I dig most of his tracks. Hard to call who's my favorite among the 3 of them, mononome might actually be.
"Been in Between" (honestly, just press play and let the widget keep playing through the songs, he keeps upping the ante, every track recently's been great)
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:06:11 PM Aim is sickly, the track 'walking through the park' from flight 603, is dope
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POP KILL
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:26:52 PM Never heard of Roger Molls, or Frenic.. But all the other names mentioned are dope, and between them all have alot of nice ish out.. Im def liking these joints by Molls.. Thanks!
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shark_sandwich
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:39:18 PM have some luke vibert
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dick_wolf
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:08:31 PM Never heard of trip hop
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p.g.
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posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:15:52 PM
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celestial clockwork
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:58:06 AM I've seen you say that about the term trip hop before liquid haha.
why?
it is trip hop, that is what it is
smh
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taste_spice
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:02:46 AM if you don't know what Trip Hop is, as a fellow Hip HopHead I must say you are quite disappointing, you must be getting your music from more commercial or strictly traditional old school sources and not digging around, trying different stuff out online. Trip Hop is dope, its been around for years. Personally I don't think its a different genre but more like a different interpretation and development of Hip Hop. Its still very close to Hip Hop and falls under the Hip Hop family classification. Just more experimental, "trippy"/"acidy"/"dreamy/shoegazy" at times.
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Mario Chalmers Swag
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:17:50 AM trip hop is misleading cuz you dont trip when you listen to it, unlike trance
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shark_sandwich
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:40:57 AM I love actual Hiphop.
yeah? thought you were a strictly hard rock/metal kinda guy wicked
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POP KILL
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:17:31 AM I found this... http://rogermolls.bandcamp.com/album/the-man-with-dusty-fingers
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dick_wolf
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:03:57 AM Hey taste_spice, something tells me you're a homo in your native tongue as well.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:45:21 PM "Trip-Hop" is a gay term because it was created by some eurofag beatwriter and it grouped Portishead and Massive Attack in with DJ Shadow
Portishead sucks and isn't related to hip-hop, Massive attack is aight but is still only mildly hip-hop influenced, DJ Shadow is hip-hop
they don't belong in the same bastardized genre
only eurotrash raver faggits who don't want to admit that there's anything good about hip-hop use the term "trip-hop"
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88 (Admin)
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:50:15 PM portishead sucks? what is going on today? first, dudes are saying 36 chambers sucks, now portishead sucks. what kind of music do these aliens actually consider good? justin beiber (is that how you spell it?)?
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:53:35 PM sorry, that whiny lead singer just annoys me, always has, never liked 'em. Too emo
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88 (Admin)
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:54:48 PM hmm.
i disagree, but fair enough.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:55:03 PM makes me sick when I see a good instrumental hip-hop album compared to portishead as if that's a good thing
and as if portishead is instrumental hip-hop
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shark_sandwich
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:55:55 PM portishead's remix of nine whutchu want is nasty
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:59:28 PM weather you like them or not they are not instrumental hip-hop
I like Air the same way people like Portishead
neither are Instrumental hip-hop, they are just bands
completely seperate from Shadow who is a DJ and beatsmith
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88 (Admin)
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:04:14 PM is air considered trip hop? i thought they were more ambient, or electronic mood music, or whatever.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:11:36 PM Moon Safari and Premier Symptomes are often labeled trip-hop/chillout/downtempo
while those two albums could easily be considered chillout, they were always just a band and their later work revealed that fact by the change of sound from electronic to acoustic
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:15:22 PM ambient in the true sense is nothing like Air, it doesn't have song structure unless paired with a beat in which case is usually a trance beat. That's what true ambient music is
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:20:55 PM well...synthesized sounds to create an environment
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88 (Admin)
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:24:21 PM ah. i'm so ignorant to genre categories. i didn't even really know what ambient was. i just listen to whatever sounds good, and if it's this genre or that, then whatevs. i think a lot of people are like that, but could be wrong. especially since genres blend in to each other so much, like the air albums, and it's just pointless to try and categorize it. that's why tom waits will win a grammy in folk and then a grammy in alternative the next year, even though the songs sound pretty much the same.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:25:31 PM and now that I think about it, Massive Attack's first albums did have really bad eurotrash rapping over it, more like a Right Said Fred vibe, and bad singing too. It was really awful, Later they came with some dope electronic beats tho, that I Against I with Mos Def still hits
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:26:34 PM well the term "trip-hop" was coined referring to DJ Shadow's Entroducing
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shark_sandwich
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:27:54 PM portishead's first album is all constructed from beats and samples. from that aspect it's fairly close to hip hop. the vocals and general vibe of the tracks is not so hip hop. they did have a dj though. so it what it is. no need to stick everything in a box with a label.
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POP KILL
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:31:21 PM Rev, Massive Attack AKA The Wild Bunch was initially a Hip Hop Crew, started by 2 graff artist. Now im going off memory of over 20yrs ago, but from that crew came tricky, nenah cherry, and portisheads DJ, amongst a few others.. Now im not trying aregue what they are but i def know that they started as a Hip hop crew.. Me personally, consider Portishead Hip Hop music, the use a very active DJ,and compose their music in the same manner as most Hip Hop artist.. i just have to disagree with you on this, its like someone trying to say that Planet Patrol or The Force MD/MC's werent Hip Hop.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:31:28 PM well portishead pioneered the technique of recording their instruments, pressing them to vinyl, then scratching/manipulating their own instrument recordings on a turntable for the final recording
props to that, that's dope, but they're still a band
linkin park is a band, limp bizkit is a band, they have DJs and Emcees
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88 (Admin)
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:33:13 PM the roots are a band. they have djs and emcees.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:35:18 PM but nobody has ever felt the need to create a new genre describing the sound of the roots other than "a hip-hop band"
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:38:01 PM Planet Patrol or The Force MD/MC's
^you wouldn't seriously compare Portishead to this these guys tho would you?
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:48:27 PM They were quite happy to produce a live performance that was quite distinctive in the way that their studio work is.” This means their stage set-up is minimal, compared to the full-bodied moments on recording. “'Wandering Star’ is an aggressive song with up-front drum and bass figures, but they now perform that live in a really stripped down way,” explains Wheaton. “They’ve gone from this pushy, unsettling version to a haunting sort of unsettling version.” They prove ‘trip-hop’ was nothing more than a selling point. A lot of bands hate the terms dreamed up by quick-trigger branding hacks at records labels, and Portishead isn’t an exception. “They hated it then and they probably hate it now,” says Wheaton. “Most of the credible musicians (Massive Attack, Tricky) felt the same way because it was sold, in the music press, as a distinctly British ‘improvement’ upon American hip-hop.” The weird racial and class subtext pointed to trip-hop as a ‘safe’ alternative to rap, which is why Barrow himself disparaged Dummy’s massive, early embrace as “yuppie music.” Post-Public Enemy’s zeitgeisty It Takes A Nation Of Millions… Barrow, who came from a hip-hop background, was insulted. “The good musicians ran from ‘trip-hop’ as fast as they could,” explains Wheaton. “And the industry got two-and-half to three years out of it before everyone got bored.” But look who’s still around. They combined music in a way everyone is replicating now—without the help of YouTube or FilesTube.com. Portishead spent years refining their unique combinatory approach to music. “Barrow’s biggest inspiration was hip-hop, and same with Utley although he came from a jazz background,” Wheaton points out. “And Beth doesn’t come from a soul, R&B or jazz background; she did a lot of new wave stuff with a singer-songwriter bent.” This very real mix made Portishead so distinctive. Wheaton feels trip-hop’s packaging forced musicians away from the “fertile ground” of a great moment in experimentation between electronic music and production techniques, with genres like lover’s rock and dub and reggae and hip-hop. Danger Mouse, of Gnarls Barkley fame, has clearly nerded out on Portishead’s production techniques—a casual listener can hear it in his dense atmospherics. It has thinned out traces in James Blake and Toronto’s The Weeknd. More than anything, says Wheaton, it’s licensed people to bring influences together they normally wouldn’t. They want to challenge you. Who does that anymore?
posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:49:34 PM this is going nowhere. it's like a hip hop vs rap argument. OP asked for trip hop, and portishead were part of the 'trip hop' scene back in the day, that's simple enough
couple more recommendations.. never really liked massive attack but this remix beat is the shit
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:52:25 PM portishead and massive attack hated the term trip-hop, unfortunately the one pioneer that has embrassed the term the most is DJ Shadow...sadly
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POP KILL
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:00:53 PM So being a Band makes them not Hip Hop?
Whats about Stetsasonic, The Roots, The Beastie Boys, shiiiit, Sugarhill Records had an inhouse Hip Hop band, The wimbleys, and The late Great Pumpkin were members..
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Mario Chalmers Swag
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:02:45 PM Anyone listen to Morcheeba, I would consider them Trip Hop, the music with the gurl singing in the back usually means Trip-Hop to me.
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POP KILL
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:06:07 PM "portishead and massive attack hated the term trip-hop"
I think i remember reading that somewhere.. I dont know, really it makes me none either way, Hip Hop or not... massive, portishead and many other groups that make, Hip Hop muisc (Trip Hop, Downtempo, Dubstep) make dope music..
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dick_wolf
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:08:14 PM Well, no matter which side you're on in the trip hop/hip hop debate, the bottom line for me is that this taste_spice guy is a fuckin homo irl.
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:09:22 PM 6it's in the quote from the article I posted above, you should read it
and yes it's been written several times. I've ben waging a war against the term "trip-hop" since I first heard it at a rave in '98
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Mario Chalmers Swag
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:11:36 PM "if you don't know what Trip Hop is, as a fellow Hip HopHead I must say you are quite disappointing, you must be getting your music from more commercial or strictly traditional old school sources and not digging around, trying different stuff out online. Trip Hop is dope, its been around for years. Personally I don't think its a different genre but more like a different interpretation and development of Hip Hop. Its still very close to Hip Hop and falls under the Hip Hop family classification. Just more experimental, "trippy"/"acidy"/"dreamy/shoegazy" at times."
Agreed..this dude is a faggot, also he cant do drugs cuz you get the death penalty for having drugs on you in Singapore, so this dude is a sober ass pussy
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Rev ain't Wright
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:11:53 PM Portishead isn’t an exception. “They hated it then and they probably hate it now,” says Wheaton. “Most of the credible musicians (Massive Attack, Tricky) felt the same way because it was sold, in the music press, as a distinctly British ‘improvement’ upon American hip-hop.” The weird racial and class subtext pointed to trip-hop as a ‘safe’ alternative to rap, which is why Barrow himself disparaged Dummy’s massive, early embrace as “yuppie music.” Post-Public Enemy’s zeitgeisty It Takes A Nation Of Millions… Barrow, who came from a hip-hop background, was insulted. “The good musicians ran from ‘trip-hop’ as fast as they could,” explains Wheaton
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shark_sandwich
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:17:33 PM yeah they didn't like the term trip hop, just like IDM artists didn't like that term (Intelligent Dance Music). at the end of the day it's only a label. there's subgenre names for everythng, it gets ultra geeky after a while, like loungecore-drumsynth mongstep-banana-hop which was massive in denmark in 1993
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Disturbance.
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 6:10:51 PM Ha, didn't expect to start an in-depth argument over the labeling of the trip hop genre. It's just the easiest way to describe a certain subset of music with certain sound elements.
I don't even know what genre a lot of the music I listen to nowadays even falls under. Air, I-Monster, Thievery Corporation, Gramatik, Zero-7, Ratatat, etc... as shark sandwich pointed out, there's a billion subgenres and labels out there - trip hop, downtempo, chillout, ambient, dubstep, ethnorock, indietronica, whatever new one someone coins.
My post was just to discuss artists with certain hip hop related elements and sounds to their music, many of which are often labeled as trip hop.
Shark sandwich - I checked out a couple of the luke vibert tracks, they were aight, I'll look more into him.
To the cat that mentioned Morcheeba, yeah, they're the sound I was looking for and they're dope. They haven't done anything in years as far as I know so I didn't include them in my original post (though I know the chick is doing solo stuff, don't know what it sounds like).
And Wicked, you're missing out on a lot of good music that you may like if you keep yourself limited to such a narrow listening scope. I used to be primarily a hip hop, East Coast boom bap type cat (have over 500 CDs I own and maybe 10 aren't hip hop). But I started listening to a lot of the music that hip hop was sampled from, rare grooves stuff, artists like syl johnson, melvin bliss - synthetic substitution, etc. and got into that pretty big, often liking the original songs more than the sampled hip hop tracks. From there, it's a natural progression to expand out to other music with similar musical elements and form your own niche as to what you like. I still dig hip hop and listen to new artists and hip hop music but there's plenty of other music out there that I dig just as much that I wouldn't have been exposed to previously. FWIW, all 4 of the artists I mentioned have several songs that are "actual hip hop" in addition to their other tracks.
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Disturbance.
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 6:25:32 PM Another track (fuck a genre): The artist Sina is hit or miss to me but this track is absolutely killing it. If you want to check out more of his music, you can do so here .
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POP KILL
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 8:41:16 PM Lol.. Yeah rev, i mightve pulled that planet patrol, force mc's ish out my ass.. At the time it sounded pretty good, but now im like "that was dumb"..
"But I started listening to a lot of the music that hip hop was sampled from, rare grooves stuff, artists like syl johnson, melvin bliss - synthetic substitution, etc. and got into that pretty big, often liking the original songs more than the sampled hip hop tracks."
Hells yeah, thats the beauty of Hip Hop, the world gets so much bigger once you dig into the music..
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marijuana cigarettes
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posted Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:47:04 PM trip hop is a pretty reasonable term
its just tripped out hip hop
like DJ Shadows drum programming, that shit is tripped out its a-typical so its trip hip
but thats not a separate genre, its a part of hip hop
posted Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:46:06 PM 
