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Location: I'm not the one posting about chocolate milk and night lights. |  posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:56:35 PM 
If so, dope.Partial IP: .6.127.175 |
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Location: You would get laughed out of the music circles I run in. | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:08:31 PM
yes. but u finna pay for that shit. oh yeah, you gon' pay!
my pops called and wanted to have a lengthy discussion about the decision. right in the middle of the fuckin draft to boot.Partial IP: 02.209.241 |
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Location: the important part is that you suck chris bosh's dick while wearing a raptor costume | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:11:07 PM
poppin celebrex like marshmellowzPartial IP: 249.97.209 |
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Location: There are actual demonic entities that control the world | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:13:40 PM
medical marijuana dispensaries for everyonePartial IP: 169.158.36 |
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Location: I'm not the one posting about chocolate milk and night lights. | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:19:06 PM
If I don't get it am I breaking the law?
Wifey just asked me what I thought about this Obamacare thing today n I don't know abt it.
What's the simplified version?Partial IP: 228.216.15 |
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Location: UGHHS BUDDAH | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:19:48 PM
Open Range JawshPartial IP: 106.227.58 |
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Location: I'm not the one posting about chocolate milk and night lights. | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:51:31 PM
mr Tony Touch has been telling me abt this Open Range film with my favorite ever, Mr Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner. Is anyone else familiar with this film.
I don't doubt it's fresh but I just never heard of it.
Does Kevin Costner have health care?Partial IP: 228.216.27 |
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Location: I'm not the one posting about chocolate milk and night lights. | posted Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:08:16 PM
I already tried that NSRPartial IP: 228.216.15 |
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Location: lol i could be wrong | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 12:13:12 AM
I have been to the doctor once in my life for a physical and an Indian touched my testicles.Partial IP: 253.119.27 |
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Location: you and Chauncey should hook up and make no money together | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 2:13:12 AM 
You just get free health care?
Hospital waiting rooms will make you so fkin angry if your a champion type tax paying working bloke when your waiting to get a leg re-attached but you gotta wait 9 hours because theres a queue of muslims who got thangs like a paper cut.Partial IP: 35.252.203 |
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Location: I'm not the one posting about chocolate milk and night lights. | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 9:32:56 AM
Oh...sounds the same. Mexicans taking their kids to the emergency room cuz they got a cold.Partial IP: 228.216.24 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 9:43:05 AM
i wish soc's left leaning dad would have called me. i would've liked to have things broken down to me by a seasoned and tenured professor of political science.
after he school me on supreme court baseball, and implied that he'd damn near suck judge roberts cock after this ruling, i'd say to him, i'd say "i need to tell you something, sir. you did a good job mr. soc. you took your son from a god damned trailer park ketchup sandwich eating wigger to a fucking lawyer with a couch lip. and i love both of you dearly."
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Location: plenty of trim | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 10:40:52 AM
public health care... good job US of A. bout fucking time.Partial IP: .151.8.177 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 10:43:25 AM
this isnt public health care bluntd stylez
its actually an expansion of private health care imoPartial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 11:37:29 AM
im a capitalist but i think single payer healthcare is the only rational option.
it eliminates 230 billion dollars of overhead tied up in the insurance industry, whose main goal is to not make pay outs because it is how they make money. that is counter-productive.
in denmark they have more doctors per person and a single payer system that costs half what health care costs in the US. 95% of people approve of it.Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: He wants to take the bar one day but he's too busy counting them | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 11:39:06 AM
expansion of medicare is the closest thing to "public health care"
but it did create a sort of marketplace where we can shop for healthcare instead of blue cross owning an entire fucking state. republicans are still pretty mad about this. one of my friends called thinking that she had to go buy health insurance, which she can't afford, and if she didn't she would have to pay a penalty because she couldn't afford it.
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Location: you and Chauncey should hook up and make no money together | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 1:30:56 PM
How much you guise pay for health insurance?Partial IP: 35.252.203 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 1:55:07 PM
maff dont be confused by gr8
he contributed $45 dollars. that might only be 10% of his total plan. I think the average plan for a single person is around $6,000 a year, and typically employers cover the bulk of the costs.
horrible system in the US. absolutely terrible.Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: it's all metaphors | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 2:11:18 PM
i know two people who work for health insurance companies. one is a staunch ex-military conservative in sales and the other is a laid back guy in statistics. they both have told me numerous times that the health insurance industry is the biggest crock of shit and waste of manpower/$$$.
but it pays their bill$ you see. therein lies da rubPartial IP: 05.103.128 |
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Location: I'm not the one posting about chocolate milk and night lights. | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 2:23:01 PM
I lostmine when I got laid off. Sux. Oh well.Partial IP: 228.216.20 |
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Location: There are actual demonic entities that control the world | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 3:16:13 PM
shld be great, bt i am worried
clark said it best, it seems like a medicare expansion
however it shld be cheaper than the 300+ dollars we pay a month for health care
and ontop of that a copay and a 500 deductable
i don get why there is a copay ort deduxtable at all if im paying that much into the system\
bt since this new healthcare is private then that opens the door to alot of issues, like profit margins an soforth
also wat is the rate going to be?
haven heard that discussed yetPartial IP: 169.158.36 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 3:29:47 PM
i didnt say it would be best. i said a single payer system would work best.
medicare and medicaid are single payer, but they fail because they only help the sickest people (old people, and poor people) so the risk isn't properly spread out.
what that does is make insurance companies even more profitable, because they only need to cover people below 65. they elimnate the sickest people from their pool of risk.
its a fucking joke.Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: There are actual demonic entities that control the world | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 3:35:55 PM
i said u said it best, which means i agree with how u described it
bt no thats not true
who it benefits the most are employers, who will no longer need to provide healthcare coverage
i assume the only ppl it wld hurt wld be staff physicians and 18-35 yo men, who generally never go to the doctorPartial IP: 169.158.36 |
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Location: You would get laughed out of the music circles I run in. | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 3:36:51 PM
lol clark. my dad mostly wanted to gloat over how fuckin pissed the republicans are over the decision.
"these republicans are just beside themselves right now"
rebel, are you guys talking about this shit in school? i imagine this decision is great law school fodder. commerce clause vs. tax and spend power debates up the ASS.
it definitely was unexpected that roberts found a way to uphold the law, but he went out of his way show his conservative chops in his opinion as well. devoting a big portion of the opinion to explain why the commerce clause doesn't give the government the authority to pass a law like this. which is abnormal when you are concluding that the law is constitutional. normally, opinions that uphold a law focus on why they are upholding it. but he just had to try and limit government in the opinion some way some how. he also said something like, well if you want to elect people like this, this is the kind of law you get. if you dont like it, throw him out of office.Partial IP: .35.24.144 |
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Location: There are actual demonic entities that control the world | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 3:40:46 PM
in fact insurance companies wld suffer too
having to compete with the one gov sponsered insurance comp that the public pay for at a discount
it may collapse the whole insurance system, which i don give a fck abt cuz like someone said earlier is an industry that uses the sick and dying as leverage for profitsPartial IP: 169.158.36 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 3:49:03 PM
sorry for the mis-read how you like me now. im in defense mode on ughh at all times.
soc how do they teach supreme court cases in law school? ive been reading about a bunch of them lately in my spare time because its an interesting history.
which cases do you suggest?
i recently read the usuals (brown v school board, miranda, roe v wade) and some other interesting ones that i cant remember the names. i want to remember all of the names so i can say things in an argument like "well if you know anything then you know that gideon v wainright proved my right for proper counsel you piece of shit. now WHERES MY FUCKING LAWYER?"Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: You would get laughed out of the music circles I run in. | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 4:13:54 PM
the major supreme court cases are discussed in the Constitutional Law courses in law school.
clark, if you really wanna show off your constitutional scholar cock to your friends on colleagues, read up on the line of cases involving the Commerce Clause. This clause is the sole consitutional authority for a shitload of laws enacted by the federal government.
The Commerce Clause is in Article I Section 8 Clause 3 of the Constitution of the United States. It grants Congress the power “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes”.
The issue has been for the last almost 200 years, what does "commerce" mean? how far can Congress expand their power to make laws that would normally be made by the States individually?
Here's the cases. Start at the beginning chronologically, so you can see the evolution of the scope of commerce clause power:
Gibbons v. Ogden (1824)
NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp (1937)
Wickard v. Filburn (1942) This is a very inmportant one.
H.P. Hood & Sons v. Du Mond (1949)
Katzenbach v. McClung (1964)
U.S. v. Lopez (1995)
U.S. v. Morrison (2000)
Gonzales v. Raich (2005)
You get all those cases down pat and you'll be fuckin Mike Ross among your friends and colleagues.
Josh, jump in here if I missed any important ones. This shits probaly a little fresher in your mind that mine.
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 4:33:23 PM
i read that gibbons and odgens case the other day i think, is that the one where two fat fuck steam ships wanted business in the waters outside of new york and new york had granted one of them a monopoly?
i will read all of them this weekend, soc.Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: You would get laughed out of the music circles I run in. | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 4:41:02 PM
yep thats the one.
dude, thats a lot to wrap your mind around in one weekend. you gotta read them a couple times at least. those cases might cover like 2 or 3 weeks in a con law class. unless youre a good will hunting or a mike ross, then by all means go for it.
if you dont want to read all of them, i would suggest Wickard, Lopez, and Raich. because usually, the more recent cases will discuss some of the older ones briefly. and the more recent cases are easier to read than the old more convoluted ones as well.Partial IP: .35.24.144 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 4:48:10 PM
where should i read about them?
ive been using a combination of wikipedia and streetlaw.org to get an understanding.
it is extremely basic, so where can i read a deep analysis of these fucking cases, soc?Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: yea they do have an absurd accent to land mass ratio in england | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 4:53:41 PM
should i read the actual supreme court rulings and read the analysis after? i mean those shits fucking suck, soc. reading those boring pieces of pompous verbose shit. but if you say i should read them, guess what, i will.Partial IP: 233.200.62 |
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Location: You would get laughed out of the music circles I run in. | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 5:04:29 PM
lol the opinions are pompous, but they will probably give you a fuller understanding of the concepts. but yeah i thought you were going to read the opinions. i'm sure you can get a good understanding of the cases by going thru the summaries tho. that will probably keep you from killing yourself out of boredom.Partial IP: 166.70.6.5 |
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Location: in comes Phil Da Agony and his 5'1 | posted Friday, June 29, 2012 5:46:36 PM
mr Tony Touch has been telling me abt this Open Range film with my favorite ever, Mr Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner. Is anyone else familiar with this film.
Open Range is a great film. Kevin Costner is badass in this shit. The plot is kinda your basic evil dickheads taking over the small western town but it's pretty well done. His love interest is kinda bunk but other than that, no complaints.Partial IP: 200.185.61 |
