| Author | Topic: A Higher Class Of Rhyme |
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Location: Clearwater, FL |  posted Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:45:32 PM 
I have noticed some words that i think are far to over used, so I will be deleting them from my repertoire:
hoe
bro
foe or foes
money
pretty much anything consistently ending with 'ing'. far to easy to make everything an action verb
"im sick as..." lines
any high end sports car ending with an I
rap
trap
crap
stacks
gun
block
rock
stock
....
Just first ones that came to me.
It is now unacceptable to use these basic ones as the only rhyme in your lines.... if you stack lots of them in the same line it can work... but, 2 long sentences just to rhyme 'foe' with 'dough' will now get an automatic ignore.
any other overused ones?
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Location: Clearwater, FL | posted Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:07:07 PM
and lines ending in 'me'-
very basic rhyme, shouldn't be used as a closer, its implied that your talking about yourself, really no need to clarify.Partial IP: .160.83.22 |
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Location: I Reek Of Awesomeness | posted Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:35:16 PM 
yea, there are a few overused words and terms... I could make a list, but then I'd be adding to the issue...Partial IP: .88.236.19 |
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Member Since: 1999 | posted Friday, July 06, 2012 9:53:29 AM
insta classic.Partial IP: 6.87.91.27 |
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Location: Clearwater, FL | posted Friday, July 06, 2012 7:59:09 PM
Thanks for reading Lolita. Update your rhyme book accordinglyPartial IP: .160.83.22 |
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Location: Clearwater, FL | posted Friday, July 06, 2012 9:27:55 PM
^^ I get it. Those who hold themselves to a higher standard will read this, and think yea common sense... don't rhyme wack. Obvious
I just wanted to create a 'do not use' list... I feel like you can't use any of these in a innovative way. They are dead words to me.. was hoping others would bring some more to the forefront... but I guess y'all would rather scoff then regurgitate the same horseshit.Partial IP: .160.83.22 |
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Location: Greenville, NC | posted Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:13:08 PM
Never really thought about word usage as much as the rhyme's content. I've always looked at the thought one is trying to convey as the compelling part to me. The rhyming part brings a thought to a close to transition into the next thought. Of course we appreciate the inner working of multisyllabled structure as it enhances beat by banging an underlying beat itself but I've never really given thought to a rhyme's power based on wordplay alone. If I have a grievance it lies within lack of thought all together. Rhyming just to rhyme I guess is a simple wat to put it. In a forum such as this where there is time to key things out I feel that we could be a lot more artistic. Let's be real. Thugged out or soft and sweet, we're all artists. Just my immediate thought. I'm sure we could diagnose and elaborate more if needed. I'm out.
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Location: I Reek Of Awesomeness | posted Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:25:02 PM
I personally feel that the topics behind the words are what is overused, making the words boring and uninspiring. Gerunds (ing words) are easy to use and string together but are overused because it's all action. And the "I'm as sick as" lines are played.
I say try the same concept without telling what you are, let them find out at the end of the bar or verse.
I think part of the writing process is to learn to say what you want to without just telling it. But very few have that down, so either they are telling you over and over, or they are piecing together stuff that you won't make the connection on unless you know the history of them. It's either people try too hard or not at all. It's hard to find balance.
I can't say I'm dope or well versed, but I do know what I see and hear.
Peace...
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Location: Greenville, NC | posted Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:08:16 PM
Who wants a dig in the field HOE?
Not the one in a mil BRO
But tell the truth about it, find a friend to turn FOE
The root of it all is the evil love for MONEY
We’ll pretty much do it all if it’s consistently COMING
I guess I’m getting sick of it too but who’s the SICKEST?
The record labels charges or the biter’s selling bitten
What the blood clot? Ruby red Maserati
Long as the rap sells, bring on the bodies
Let the dogs eat even though it’s a TRAP
Let the bones break, catch your point on the CRAPS
If the poem makes it from the page to the STACKS
I guess the gun was loaded and the crosshairs matched
Truth, we all know the game’s surviving writer’s BLOCK
Most have never had to find a place to hide your ROCKS
Who care’s, the fans or the higher buying STOCK
I’d elaborate a little more but it’s time to stop
Udon Constantine
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Location: I Reek Of Awesomeness | posted Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:22:39 PM
I was diggin this hoe with my tool - how ironic
I was chilling with my bro by the school smoking chronic
friend or foe don't matter they all are way too close
and money is the root of them being there the most
running and gunning while sunning in the 305
yea I'm sick as salmonella and uncooked fries
used to date a girl named infiniti
I had a threesome with her and her sis triniti
I use my rap to legitimize the money from the trap
shooting craps and slangin crack to make stacks
yea I gotta pack a gun on the block
because I don't trust stocks so I keep my rocks in my socks
LOL I think I used them all in order at that...Partial IP: .88.236.19 |
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Location: I Reek Of Awesomeness | posted Saturday, July 07, 2012 6:47:19 PM
yea now we're having fun...Partial IP: .88.236.19 |
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Location: Southampton, UK | posted Saturday, July 07, 2012 10:51:56 PM
Although I think it's good to increase vocal and limit cliche's I think we can over analyse the actual words too much. In my opinion the most important part of rhyming is your flow and delivery. I suppose when we're just looking at the words rather than hearing them, it's different, but that's just my two pence....Partial IP: .20.148.10 |
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Location: I Reek Of Awesomeness | posted Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:42:26 AM
and that's a great observation. Thing for me is I don't like the know the next rhyme you're gonna say. It kinda defeats the purpose of even peeping ...Partial IP: .88.236.19 |
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Location: Southampton, UK | posted Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:29:51 AM
Yea that's a fair call. I think the real key is to remove predictability. Words that are simple and used often don't have to be predictable in my opinion though. It's the actual meaning behind the words that matter. It's the emotions and images they create. That is the really important part, not what words the MC decided to use.
I think if we get too held up on taking certain words out of our vocabulary we're in danger of whoring a dictionary and using overly complex words that don't resonate with the listener. Then we no longer got Hip Hop, we got Prog Hop and no muva fucker wants that!Partial IP: .20.148.10 |
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Location: I Reek Of Awesomeness | posted Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:38:24 AM
^I can get with that. We should be trying to up the meaning, rather than repeat the same thing...Partial IP: .88.236.19 |
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Location: Clearwater, FL | posted Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:22:46 AM
Mic Jordan- that rhyme actually made me laugh. Good shit.
Lav- I was more referring to the key styles people post without a track with it... On a audio track you can get away with using some basic stuff just by flowing well, but these key styles are sometimes very telegraphed... I think most of us are writers here, so to mew it is discouraging when I'm read the first line of a set and already know what the next rhyme is going to say.
for me if I'm writing and I say " shits getting hard, feel I'm bout to blow-" i start thinking of the next line and rhymes.. and the easy first rhymes I think of are "foe" and "hoe" and so on... So when I see those rhymes I interpret these lines like the rhymer went to easy on those lines...
We all write, so the dope writers know the easy rhyme patterns and subjects and transitions to fall back on... It seems like the not-so-dope keep using the first thing they think, the easy way out.
But you all are right, in that a good mc or flow or even a hot beat can overcome the dumb factor... but just reading rhymes in plain text, its hard to justify the simple rhymes IMO.
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